Sanctuaries

The CommonsBy Kim Goldberg

I will add additional electro-safe sanctuaries and potential sanctuaries to this list as I come across them.

PLEASE NOTE: Some of the places listed below  are not yet built or open. Others may not be as free from signal as they need to be, or as they once were. This list is simply a starting point for you in your search for safe haven. Most electrosensitive people are finding there is no safe haven anywhere that is ready and waiting to take them. Rather, people need to go out and find or create a safe haven for themselves. 

Facebook now has two groups devoted to bringing people together to locate and create EMF-Free Sanctuaries:

B.C. and Canadian Wireless-Free Zones (Closed Group – you must join to read messages and post): https://www.facebook.com/groups/661015143934586/

Wireless-Free Living Communities (Open Group – you can read messages without joining): https://www.facebook.com/groups/571481532909496/

And here is a website for people who are forming EMF-free communities (buying land, looking for partners and funding, etc.) in various regions of North America: http://www.occupyemfharm.org/EMF_Free_Communities.php

And here is another website for people seeking to find (or to advertise) EMF-safe living locations worldwide: http://radiationrefuge.com/

If you know of additional EHS sanctuaries to be added to the list below, you can share them with me by email (goldberg@ncf.ca) or by leaving a comment at the bottom of this page.

CANADA

BRITISH COLUMBIA: Cedar Rock: Oasis for Quiet Living near Osoyoos, BCA 320-acre property located 50 km east of Osoyoos, BC, on Hwy 3. This sanctuary has not yet been built. It is in the planning stage, and the vision is quite large and impressive. See website for details. Cedar Rock is intended to be a “regenerative community” primarily for people with MCS (Multiple Chemical Sensitivity). But it will also meet the needs of EHS people. There will be no wireless technology permitted anywhere on the acreage.

BRITISH COLUMBIA: Sidhartha’s Garden is an ecovillage and EHS refuge located on Vancouver Island in the rural community of Errington (about 50 km north of Nanaimo). It sounds like it is mainly available to those who can come with tent or van or caravan to live on the land, although there is also some indoor hostel accommodation. There may be more infrastructure in the future. This is what the owners say about the refuge: “We have established an EHS refuge sanctuary free of wifi and air pollution on a large tract of rural land. We issued a call for EHS people to come join us on the land. People would initially live in whatever vans, tents or caravans. Also we have hostel for weekly and monthly rate of $12 (CDN)/night. Long-term stays and the creation of a sustainable community are all possible and part of our vision. We are Yogis who maintain a chemical-free environment for happy living. We can facilitate workshops and support you in your practice. Knowledgeable in nutrition, diet, yoga, reflexology, massage, nature utilization, and a clear feng-shui loving space for your meditation and other needs.” Contact Nathan at 250-937-7263.

UNITED STATES

WEST VIRGINIA: Greenbank, West VirginiaNot a formal EHS sanctuary, but a small community that is located within the U.S. National Radio Quiet Zone, established in 1958 to shield the radio astronomy telescopes there from radio interference. Read the BBC News article: “Wi-fi refugees shelter in West Virginia mountains”. Read the Slate.com article: “Refugees of the Modern World”.

CALIFORNIA: Silent Dome Spa in Grass Valley, California – This “EMF silent house” may soon be complete and taking bookings. Contact the owner via the website for details about availability. The house is located in the Sierra Nevada mountains, ten miles south of Grass Valley and more than two miles from any phone masts. All power to the house is filtered. The house has a combination of DC powered LED lights and low EMF emission appliances, with EMF-silent computers. According to the owner: “This home is intended to give EMF sensitives a place to detox from symptoms, to get EM testing, and to meet other sensitives. The long-term goal is to publicize the techniques to cope with this condition, particularly nutrition, clothing, and other healing modalities. When six people occupy the 3-bedroom house, per night cost is competitive with Motel 6.”

COLORADO: EM Sensitivity Research Institute in Rockvale, Colorado – This facility is still in the planning stages. According to the website: “The Institute would be located on a campus of 59 acres of presently undeveloped land in Rockvale, Colorado where the ambient fields are relatively low. Sensitives would travel to the Institute and live in specially built cabins. These cabins will operate on 24 VDC and perhaps 380 VDC, but no 60 Hz alternating electricity. Cell phones and WiFi would not be allowed on campus.” Consult the website for further information, updates, and to contact the planners directly.

ARIZONA: Snowflake MCS/EHS Community in Snowflake, Arizona – According to the website: “A rural area outside Snowflake, Arizona has become a haven for people with severe MCS and electrical sensitivity.  Over thirty people with environmental illness live in specially built or modified homes on large lots.  Thirteen homes are built adjacent to each other, while the rest are scattered over a larger area. The zoning in most areas requires a minimum of 20 acres (8 hectares) for each home, ensuring that the area stays rural.  Land is inexpensive, making such large lots economical. Most of the MCS/EHS homes are connected to the electrical grid, while a few are fully powered by the sun for ultra-low EMF living.”

WISCONSIN: Lynn Knapp has purchased a low-EMF acreage in Southwest Wisconsin and wants to create an electro-safe community for other EMF refugees. Lynn Knapp says: “I have dealt with EMF for 10 years and finally purchased 22 acres in SW Wisconsin that is a safe zone. Feels wonderful there! Looking to create a small community with like folks that are dealing with EMF.” For more information, phone Lynn at 608-794-2619 or email her at dellkoprime@frontier.com .

U.K.

Beacon Bank Farm in Staffordshire, England – This is a rural B&B in a 250-year-old brick farmhouse with several Yurts located in a nearby wood for an even more rustic living experience. There is no Wi-Fi, and guests are requested to keep their mobile phones off. The owners serve vegetarian meals and are very health conscious. They advertise Beacon Bank farm as a “No Wi-Fi Zone, Low EMF, Low Tech.” Lodging is available for short recuperative holidays from EMR/RF. This is not a permanent living option.

EUROPE

FRANCE: EHS Refuge – Located in the French province of Drôme in southeastern France. The nearest town of any size is Valence. Visit this link for many images of this refuge and specific details on the shielding of the caravans and other living quarters. Watch the BBC News documentary on this EHS Refuge Zone here. As with the following EHS refuge in Italy, everything here is free.

FRANCE: Pailharès – This tiny village in southeastern France, with a population of just 280, may be the last remaining ‘White Zone’ in France – meaning a community where there is minimal mobile phone coverage and wireless radiation. Electrosensitive people have been moving there in recent years. However, that could change if the local government activates the mobile phone mast recently built on a hill outside the village. EHS residents are currently embroiled in a legal battle with local government.

ITALY: Parc de Carnè – This is Italy’s first EHS refuge. It is located within the Vena del Gesso Regional Park near the town of Brisighella in the province of Ravenna. It opened in 2010, and according to the fact sheet, everything within the zone is free, including the Bed & Breakfast.

SPAIN: Olvera Located in the province of Cadiz, the town of Olvera (population 8,500) became Spain’s first municipality to declare itself “electromagnetic pollution–free” in 2012 by unanimous approval of its city council. NOTE: I do not know if Olvera has actually achieved its goal and removed all cell towers and illegal antennas or is simply working toward it. Elsewhere I have read that there are so many cell towers and antennas throughout Olvera that it doesn’t mean much that they “went wireless”. I would welcome more information about current conditions in Olvera.

SWITZERLAND: Zurich An apartment block has been built in Zurich for people with Electrosensitivity and Multiple Chemical Sensitivity. The long list of rules for occupants and visitors includes: no smoking, perfumes, mobile phones, Wi-Fi, or other sources of chemical and electro-pollution. Allowable cleaning products are displayed in the lobby. The building, which opened in December 2013 and is believed to be the first of its kind in Europe, is shielded against electromagnetic radiation. 

AUSTRALIA

Mid West Radio Quiet Zone, 200 km East of Meekatharra – Like Greenbank, West Virginia in the US, this is not a formal EHS sanctuary but rather a designated Radio Quiet Zone (since 2005) to shield radio astronomy telescopes from interference. According to the website, “The area has very low levels of radio frequency energy because of its low population and remote location.” So it would presumably be good habitat for electro-sensitive people. However, I have been told by one Australian that this area is a “no go” zone. If anyone has more information, please leave a comment.

Tasmania – Practically the entire island state of Tasmania, located 150 miles south of the Australian continent,  is an unofficial ‘white zone’ since there is very little Wi-Fi or mobile phone coverage outside of Hobart and Launceston. Even power transmission lines are few and far between. Tasmania is famed for its vast and largely unspoiled natural environment. The only relief George Parker has ever known from electrosensitivity in the last 45 years that he has suffered from it was during the three years he and his wife lived in Tasmania and his symptoms disappeared.  

King Valley EHS Refuge, near Wangaratta, Victoria – Bruce Evans would like to establish an EHS refuge on a large tract of rural land in southeastern Australia owned by his family. In September 2014, he issued a call for EHS people (like himself) to come join him on the land. People would initially live in whatever vans, tents or caravans they come with. But long-term stays and the creation of a sustainable community are all possible and part of Bruce’s vision. People can build their own cottages and stay long-term in exchange for helping out on the farm.  (Update: This sanctuary is “on hold” for now. You can contact Bruce directly at admin@radiationrefuge.com or visit his website: http://radiationrefuge.com/)

AFRICA

Ricky’s Drift, Western Cape, South Africa – A beautiful organic, non-toxic farm in the Klein Karoo, established by someone who has Electrosensitivity, Multiple Chemical Sensitivity, and Lyme’s Disease. They offer accommodation for others who need to escape the toxins of modern society. Many photos and all information is available on the website: http://rickysdrift.co.za/index.html.

148 thoughts on “Sanctuaries

  1. rustic23

    Kim – Your growing list of refugiums can only be heartwarming to the EHS multitudes living nomadic lives but due to your receiving negative feedback plus the negative feedback to healing modalities such as Annie Hopper’s i can’t hellp but wonder if many EHS’ers start feeling so negative , so used to complaining, that the effort to heal seems impossible/overpowering. Yes, it DOES take LOTS of effort but anything worth doing does. No, most definitely it doesn’t stop there – it’s only a beginning to be part of a healing path for the entire world. So, i just don’t understand anyone negating it. Thanks for allowing our voices to be heard, Kim.

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  2. rustic23

    I admire the work you’re doing, Kim – – – It takes what many people lack – – – TRUE GRITS/GUTS.- – Putting your ‘money’ where your mouth is.- – – Please don’t ever lose it. .

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  3. Stephanie Dickerson

    Kim, I’m trying to help someone find a spot to be just a few days to get some respite in either GA or the Carolina’s- If anyone has a spot- please let Kim or anyone here know!!! It is so difficult to find somewhere that is not near so many towers.

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      1. M. Plant

        This is amazing! Thank you for your research and hard work, Kim! I have been thinking about, praying for this all day…and here it is! Exactly what we EHS need; a safe community and a place to escape to when the going gets rough, as in my last week of inescapable 24/7 brainpain from neighbours with new toys and upgrades and a new cell antennae covertly installed on a Hydro pole on my street when I got back from Saanich, Vancouver Island (terrible WiFi hotspot in Sidney BTW…riding my bike on the Lochside trail was like riding through a windstorm of painfully strong signals from Smart Meter, WiFi, cellphones and celltowers galore!). Thank you so much, Kim and others for your hard efforts, foresight, and compassion!

  4. keira O

    I am looking for contacts concerning projects, communities, in Europe first of all (but also elsewhere) without wifi, and without any mobile coverage. I might be interested in starting something together with others, buying a piece of land etc…
    Please contact me: keira@mail-me.com

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    1. rustic23

      Keira – It seems that practically every inch of livable land has cell phone towers erected nearby, homes with smart meters and people constantly on cell phones, etc. etc. ad nauseum. Where are you thinking of looking?

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  5. Mita

    Sign India up for boiling the frog. Not slowly either You would think that in a country with so many economically and culturally different people and areas one could find somewhere to escape to. I am still looking and boiling. City, village, highway, the towers, bad wiring, bad electrical appliances, good people doing bad bad bad acts with respect to at least criminally negligent use of tecjnology. Rather than just writing let me show you what I mean.
    Recorded in a Kolkata home: My old home

    My new homeKolkata kaikhali chiriamore: http://youtu.be/WGy2EAv4r8E

    Hope the links work.

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  6. luda

    We live in an ecovillage; Sidhartha’s Garden in Vancouver Island 50 km from Nanaimo. We have established an EHS refuge sanctuary free of wifi and air pollution around on a large tract of rural land in Errington B.C. Canada. We issued a call for EHS people to come join us on the land. People would initially live in whatever vans, tents or caravans also we have hostel for weekly and monthly rate 12 CAN per night. Long-term stays and the creation of a sustainable community are all possible and part of our vision.

    We are Yogis who maintain a chemical-free environment for happy living. We can facilitate workshops and support you in your practice. Knowledgeable in Nutrition, Diet, Yoga, Reflexology, Massage, Nature Utilization, and a clear Feng-Sui loving space for your Meditation and Needs!

    our contact 250-937-72-63 nathan

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    1. Kim Goldberg Post author

      Thank you for sharing this information. That’s great that you have created an EHS sanctuary on Vancouver Island! I will add this information to my Sanctuaries list when I get a chance.

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    2. M. Plant

      I am interested in your Gardens in Errington. Probably a one-week stay with yoga and meditation, but could be longer. I am severely EHS, so no cordless or cellphones please. What facilities do you have available at 12 dollars/night? Can you post photo to my email? I can’t be anywhere near anyone carrying a cellphone…this is imperative! (Brainblasting electrocution and trauma, similar to concussion, to the head!)

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      1. Kim Goldberg Post author

        Hi Maria. I think you need to reply to the Errington EHS Sanctuary people directly, via the phone number they included in their posting: 250-937-72-63 nathan. I am not sure they are checking my website for comments to their posting. Good luck! 🙂

  7. Hugh Conway

    I understand that most of Wales in U.K. is without wireless as well. We have friends living there, no cell phones or “smartmeters”

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  8. Sofia

    Rural Wales might be the case, but Cardiff and the areas bordering England are definitely not EMF free. Sadly some of the most idyllic, rural parts of England (like the Cotswolds) are the worst as the frequencies seems to concentrate in the Five Valleys. Perhaps there are many rural places all over and until more people move in those spots, towers are unlikely. However, once we go there, mobile phone companies believe there will be the demand…so the towers go up. What we really need is localized areas of local Government that are willing to resist Corporate pressure and money. That will require all of us EHS’ers to choose a spot and be in the local government to ensure such resistance can occur. It will also require people being willing enough to help locally educate the children of others in the community outside of the current system to prevent them from being harmed as well. That is the only way the future will really change; for if all the children are being exposed, they will, in turn, not be able to resist in the future as it changes the patterns of the brain. That means we must work on our interpersonal relationships and build a new culture of cooperation that is more selfless than what we are accustomed to. For me, that is our greatest beautiful opportunity, but also our greatest obstacle.
    http://www.electricsense.com/11043/cell-phones-cancer-children/

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  9. Sam

    I am in Britain, I find in rural areas where there may be less mobile phone and wifi radiation, I still get EMS symptoms from overhead power lines.

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    1. Kim Goldberg Post author

      Thanks for sharing your experience, Sam. I have certainly heard of others who are quite affected by overhead powerlines. Very hard to escape all human-created sources of electromagnetic radiation.

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  10. Sam

    A friend of mine who has EHS and Fibromyalgia finds visiting the Dartmoor National Park (England) helpful – overhead power is forbidden in the national park and most areas have no mobile phone signal.

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  11. Bruce

    In rural areas with WYE power distribution (neutral wire, with smaller or no insulator), secondary distribution lines are often heavily loaded, and often only one or two phases so that “balancing” the neutral is impossible. This means higher magnetic fields from neutral current to the earth and aquifer. The code required grounding (via non transformer isolated neutral of the Wye system) of rural well pumps adds greatly to the current in aquifers, which results in low level magnetic fields over very large areas. This problem is not changed by the lines being buried; that really only reduces high frequency radiation from the power lines. Rural power lines are also not monitored or patrolled by the power company for high frequency EMI, often caused by loose and dirty structural metalic hardware on wood poles.

    In suburban communities things to look and ask for are:
    Delta power distribution
    Separate transformer per home
    water and gas provided by plastic pipes.

    Underground wires are both helpful and not. They make locating arcing sources difficult, but they tend to have less local sources due to the lack of wood and supporting hardware. (Wood shrinks with age and then metal fasteners near the lines may develop high induced voltages and spark,) Underground wires don’t radiate EMI as well as overhead lines, but this is not as helpful as it would seem since the home has so much unshielded, connected wiring that you are always much closer to.

    Best Wishes,
    Bruce

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  12. Joy

    Hi…would you know if there are any safe zones in The Caribbean islands, such as Jamaica, any help would be appreciated,
    thank you
    Joy

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  13. Chris Young

    Hi Kim, Enjoyed your site and your fine work very much, thank you! For your growing list of EMF-Free Communities please add ,… Pueblo EMF Quieto (EMF Quiet Village) in Arizona USA. This extensive acreage is designed to enable relatively easy relocation for EHS restorative stays, offering wilderness camping or short and longer term tiny-house rental, with adjacent pristine land for private building also available for sale, in beautiful White Mountains of Arizona. See more description at http://www.emf-experts.com/EMF-community.html – or watch this YouTube invitation: https://youtu.be/6zlOg-T9uXE

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    1. Kim Goldberg Post author

      Thanks Chris. I will definitely add Pueblo EMF Quieto as soon as I have time to do some work on my website. 🙂 I have been reading about it on Facebook.

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  14. Aiko Aiyana

    What are the qualifications for an EMFor EHS free zone? I am wired for internet, cell signals here are very sketchy to no service and there are many trees here in Hawaii. How do I know if I qualify?

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    1. Kim Goldberg Post author

      Hi Aiko. I don’t believe there is any formal definition of an EMF-Free Zone, since most safe places people find probably do have some signal (it is hard to escape it entirely) – they just have far far less than most other areas. From what you have described (minimal to no cell service and wired internet, not wifi), it sounds like you have a pretty safe haven.

      If you have a place other people can stay short-term or long-term, you are welcome to post that information here in a more detailed comment, including website link if you have one. Or email it to me at goldberg@ncf.ca and I will add it to my list when I next get around to updating it. (May be a while.)

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  15. August Kleiner

    This video (https://1drv.ms/a/s!As9vBMPC-kjmb_Fatuw5aB0dtIs) is recoded in Olvera 31/1/2017. The town is surrounded with 2 antennas on nearest mountain tops letting out over 1 mW/m2. But there are chance of worse hazard than microwave bursts. The streets go steep up and down on the mountain in thin air, which make all people catch their breathe, and in the morning cars cold start everywhere spitting out toxic stuff in the air.

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  16. Kelly Strickland

    hello I am currently offering emf refugees temporary relief and time to heal from emf pollutants during the summer months on a wildlife camping retreat. during the months of april-september in the toyiabe national forest located an hour out of las vegas nevada. people will be provided a guide, transportation, tent, and meals. people would only need to bring thier clothes to this beautiful terrain that is virtually emf free. there is no wifi or cell service at all. it is a little rugged but our guides are very knowlegeable and experienced campers in the area. very affordable, starting at 200$ , without all the work of setting up camp etc, private or groups setting, focused on natural healing and getting better while back to the basics. email stricklylivingfree@gmail.com or call/text 7755379125
    i am also interestesdin creating a community that is free of: emf, gmo, flouride, pesticide, antibiotic free/ grass fed livestock where people can live off the grid but everyone contributes thier time/education/specialty/gift to make the community work. and a pharmascist that uses FOOD as medicine. we would need farmers cooks seamstress carpenters and probably more than i can list here. if you are interested in starting this type of community living please contact me kelly at stricklynuts@gmail.com or call or text 775 537 9125 i am in nevada usa.

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    1. Kim Goldberg Post author

      Thanks very much Kelly for visiting my Refugium site and posting this information! Re: the $200 starting price for the guides who will set up camps and cook meals for people… What period of time would the $200 cover? A day? A week? Just trying to get a rough ballpark on what the costs are since many EHS people are financially destitute due to the way this has affected their lives. Sounds like you have some great plans in mind! I hope people will get in touch with you! 🙂

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  17. John Landers

    Some EMF protective clothing actually amplifies the radiation!!!
    I am EMF sensitive and easily get headaches near cellphone in use, which I have also measured with a cornet smog meter to be up to 70mW/m2.
    I then read about a woman with extreme sensitivity to devices at distance and she was using protective clothing, so?
    Take a look at the principle of a satellite dish: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_dish
    It works the same way as making fire by focusing light, which is electromagnetic rays. That’s why I myself would never wear and hood(http://emfclothing.com/736-thickbox/leblok-hood-emf-protective.jpg) (https://lessemf.com/images/a219.jpg) https://lessemf.com/images/a263.jpg or hat(https://lessemf.com/images/a210.jpg) as EMF protection. Even a hat is bad, because for example on Las Palmas, Spain on near mountains I used a hf35c emf meter and directed it towards earth and somehow every 8 second there was a about 8mW/m2 outburst.

    So what do I do? I have suffered extreme headaches for long periods during more than 10 years and eaten tons of pills…
    Take a look at this map about coverage: http://which.coverage.opensignal.com/ and check anywhere to live near resources (supermarket, etc.)
    Then compare it with this map: https://www.cellmapper.net/map about celltowers in proximity.
    If they cover then they will also be people with dangerous cellphones around.
    Take also a look at map of shielding vegetation: http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/GlobalMaps/view.php?d1=MOD13A2_M_NDVI
    There isn’t a single spot on the whole globe that aren’t covered! So there is no where to hide… So while suffering it seems best to try not to get upset.

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  18. Bruce

    I’m a EE with severe MCS and ES for the last 29 years. In order to survive, I’ve had to become a serious student of EMC, the electrical engineering field which pretty much defines everything you’d need to know about actual shielding, filtering and measurement of the entire spectrum of EMFs. I live in a way off the grid home with 120VDC power ala Edison’s early power, with a PV/AC charger/regulation system I designed and build myself.

    I agree that in most cases, shielding clothing is ineffective. But this is because of cracks and gaps in the shielding, leaving exposed peripheral nerves. In order for it to be effective, you must have a COMPLETE surround, without cracks or gaps. This means a type of bee keeper suit.
    For many who may or may not be aware of their MCS, the shielding fabrics are often chemically intolerable, just as any new fabric is. Even organic cotton threads are now routinely coated with acrylic to avoid breakage in high speed looms, and it is near impossible to find fabrics made on very old looms, where only vegetable starch may be used.

    So if you put on shielding fabric, and feel bad, it is extremely likely that you are just reacting to the fabric.

    There is a huge misconception about reflected waves being concentrated. It is based more on phobia than reality. Our biological response to EMFs is logarithmic, so like light, we can barely notice a rather large change. My practical experience is that a 30dB reduction ( voltage or half that in power) of an immediately problematic frequency source is JUST BARELY noticeable. 60 dB reduction is felt as significantly improved. Over 90dB reduction and it is gone. The levels of signal change for a distant signal, with reflective surfaces and/or clothing is NOT going to reach a noticeable level.

    Likewise, you can do the typically lousy job of shielding your home, and if you do not tolerate the result, it will most certainly be due to and MCS type reaction to the shielding materials and NOT from “magical” amplification of signals by your leaky shield room. I encourage everyone to do materials toleration testing before doing large and expensive shielding projects.

    My own shielded home :
    http://www.eiwellspring.org/emc/HighlyShieldedHouse.htm
    has a single shielded door facing the direction of a cell tower 5.5 miles away. If the magical reflection theory was true, you would expect the radio/micrwave peak readings to be higher inside than outside when the door was open. It is not, it is in fact lower. When I have tested with an intentional omnidirectional (whip style) transmitter/antenna at 2.4 GHz inside the house, I do not get “hot spots”, instead I see levels as if I was about 10 feet from the transmitter, everywhere in the house, uniform to within 3-4dBm. This is caused by the foil lamimated walls reflecting not a single straight line source from a distance, but rather, reflecting the energy radiated in all directions by the omnidirectional whip antenna. When the steel door to that room is closed, the levels drop by 40dB, as if I had moved 100 feet from the transmitter in open space outside. This does point out that shielding a room or home, while using a transmitter inside it is idiotic and not appropriate for someone with ES.

    Non technical, magical reflection and resonance phobia has long been part of spiel of many “taught” by the Baubiology $800 certification mill. People seem to forget that Architects are ART majors and have no engineering training. Now they have an EMRS certification mill program for $3000, still absurd, since you can’t teach EMC in a two week class to non-EEs; they don’t have the technical background to understand it. Even EE’s would hardly be competent to do expert consulting after taking a 2 week seminar. In many states, your hair dresser or barber has more stringent certification requirements. It is a sorry state of affairs.

    In almost all cases, except for that of the transmitter inside your shielded area, you can utterly ignore reflections. When you don’t like reflective material, it is most likely a chemical or metal ion intolerance. Metal ions can be very bothersome, so even well cleaned and degreased metals can have an odor. This has been a common problem for those with MCS; I myself am badly affected by new, shiny aluminum alloys, copper, silver, and galvanized (zinc) steel. Fortunately, oxidization of the surface greatly reduces ions, and virtually any coating including acrylic, clay or milk paints also stops the metal ions.

    Resonance is another area where charlatans make absurd claims that you can put aside as irrelevant. If you do build a shield room or a shield for a piece of bothersome equipment, due to discontinuities of the shield, there will be resonances for some frequencies. Good grounding and bonding of the shield pieces will greatly reduce this. But please understand that even in the worst case, a resonance can only cause the absence of shielding at that particular frequency. IT WILL NOT AMPLIFY THE SIGNAL! An audible example is the tuning fork. When held near another tuning fork of the same note, it will softly vibrate that note at a lower amplitude. It does not get louder than the exciting source!

    I hope this helps but often am incapable of explaining engineering concepts to lay people, despite my best efforts.

    Bruce M

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    1. John Landers

      According to EMF clothes salesman: “all tested – the face will absorb the signal before it hits the brain. Then consider if you turn away from the signal you will be shielded. …”

      By the way: When police check luggage in airports or trainstations they do not find cellphones dangerous. But hey they are tamed watchdogs …

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  19. Bruce

    You face is covered in nerve endings, and you eyes and nose have direct nerve connections deep into the brain. Without a complete surround of the whole body, including the face, shielding clothing is as utterly worthless as the various magical jewelry, pendants, crystals, quantum malarkey, harmonizers, etc. These devices all work by placebo effect alone. Those with real ES are being preyed on by charlatans, and it is a booming field.

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    1. John Landers

      “Those with real ES are being preyed on ..” is not realistic! You can try to comprehend it that way, but it ends like an angry blame.

      In the whole history about the american slavery and civil war over equal rights, did you even once find anything stating, that truly black and white aren’t equal, because black people can better sustain radiation from the sun in southern Africa, while white with red hair people statistically originating from western Europe are different, so nature is racist! Laws of government, religion or other games are misinformation! So what’s the trouble?

      In the TV show “Treasure quest snake island” in one episode the diver gladly jumps into hazardous water to get some “piece” of treasure, while a lurking crocodile close by suddenly also slips down there. Isn’t the greatest treasure really a good lifelong health?

      As EHS sufferer you may realize, that no you are not cut out to live like this, even if there are protecting clothes, you just want to get out of the impossible troubled zones. While others realizing that there are dangers, and there are sufferers, imagine, “what if we move around in “tanks”, we might make it in the war? And we will help others to with what, we believe is best!” Why can this be imagined? Because technology is fascinating!

      Can you imagine people talking in a mobilephone with their boss or just about serious problems, thinking that they boss or those problems are giving them a headache, while it is really EMF from the fantastic device? If you are schooled to behave – given characters for examplanary work -, if you are tamed, you’ll take pills for headache, put on lipstick and a smile and blame nature for being racist.

      In the TV show “Gold Rush Alaska” first season the team starts out with a mechanic James Harness, who is actually very ill by the mechanical work he does, though Todd (the boss) calls him a technologic wizard! And you’ll hear during the show James talking about ignoring pain not to let the other guys down. And he goes down dying that way. Tons of people actually believe nature is bad, and that for example technologic hospitals are there to fix them. And many die with cancer that way.

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    1. John Landers

      I finally found an apartment sligtly down and behind a hill towards the only close mobilantennas in town. So I paid for entrance and moved in and told others on an EHS union website about the other available apartment on top of “mine”. Some of different race and with two children came to look at it, and I went around telling them about the really low EMF measurements that to surprise suddenly jumped repeatedly on the smog meter everywhere. It turned out that they were actually carrying mobile phone, and they were not the ones from the EHS union, and besides very much using fascinating electronics, they also decided to move in above! So wonder how to shield the ceiling?

      But then I also heard, that a smart meter was going to be installed!

      And after visiting the local water supply station, the local officer said, that they were planning to install everywhere this meter – which he showed – automatically registering and communicating wireless …

      But I don´t need that kind of game for entertainment! It is more important to figure out the healthy cycles of the body also by really growing some vegetables instead of doing it in a computer game. Because it is necessary to figure out good and bad in life!

      What is good and bad in a war? That is impossible, because the human body is not created to function in war – so participating in EHS rights is to me self-destructive! And EHS also seems like an incorrect definition to me, the correct must be “disharmonic electromagnetic technology”.
      But what is good and bad in life? Well when the body excretes feces in a toilet, it can smell bad, and perhaps embarrassing if any one takes notice it may trigger deniability. But understanding how feces actually are used as fertilizer for vegetables growth, and that then bad has become something good, it should not be embarrassing anymore. And the reason it smelled bad was because of a bodily reaction telling you not to put it in mouth!
      To understand health is not phrasing, for example when the body reacts tired and it is time to sleep, then the correct answer to good and bad becomes that it doesn´t matter now!

      To understand health and satisfaction you need access codes! For example yes, I get it about time and sleep and the autonomy of consciousness and abilities, which are told to be unknown at current scientific level, but it doesn´t make rationel sense to me if this life only gave meaning after “programming” every one else. Somehow there has to be a way in this life even if every one else decides to war. Actually I believe back in groundschool among all the other students I knew, I was the only one at the finish who voluntarily threw out all grade-books required for higher education and work to see, how society would treat me now without that crap! And even after more than 7 years without money on the streets and as a runaway from psychiatric, this is totally the correct way for me! Hey, most of the human body is just water, so I´m not really here, and there´s no way I´m going to waste my time in war over property in a world that only exists to eyes for demonstration!

      But about the mystery of sleep I guess it would appropriate here to explain, since that actually lead me to knowledge of disharmonic EMF radiation: Of course knowledge is not really something you have, because then where do you put it? You just get it in a fraction, and when you come by on a different thought pattern in relation, the relevance might attract a “memory” without actually revealing what! But what is sleep for?
      Experience grows, but “scientific level” that is pure nonsense! For example the purpose of war can be concluded as impossible even without experience by being a human not designed for it! So it is actually possible to know something even without experience!
      So if I lived back before the institution of hospitals, would life be impossible to make sense? And being ill then is it sensible to cut open the body for examination? The only possible conclusion is, that you must work in thoughts and psyche to find cure, and when you do understand the health issue, then nature – which made you ill – also has to cure you again! And what confirms this, is the requirement for sleep to regenerate! Because it is the only possible purpose with nature to really imprison us with gently illness and also cure us again after recognition and understanding! Actually the institution of prisons are only a fake nature! And how I came to get disharmonic EMF was by proving the need for relaxation in darkness during regeneration at sleep!

      The world and the nature in compare, time, the keys to treasures on the map of good health, about the rest …, dude, you need the access codes …

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